Open carry

Castle Rock special election tackles future of town's gun laws

By Mike DiFerdinando
Posted 8/1/14

Voters in Castle Rock this month have the chance to weigh in on two ballot questions that will help shape the future of the town's gun laws.

The first is a question relating to whether or not the town manager has the authority to ban open carry in town-owned and -run buildings, facilities and parks. Open carry is currently outlawed in those locations, in accordance to the town manager.

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Open carry

Castle Rock special election tackles future of town's gun laws


Voters in Castle Rock this month have the chance to weigh in on two ballot questions that will help shape the future of the town's gun laws.

The first is a question relating to whether or not the town manager has the authority to ban open carry in town-owned and -run buildings, facilities and parks. Open carry is currently outlawed in those locations, in accordance to the town manager.

If voters vote yes on ballot question A, the town manager will no longer have authority on the issue and Colorado state law will kick in, allowing for open carry on said property. A no vote leaves the power of whether open carry is allowed on town-owned property with the town manager.

The other question is a potential amendment to the Castle Rock charter that would require a town vote to alter gun laws in the future.

Under the current ordinance, passed in 2003, the town manager has the power to make decisions on where the open carry of firearms is permitted or prohibited.

In 2013, the town council revisited the issue, exploring whether it would be best to transfer the power to make the decision from the town manager to themselves.

Then, after more research and discussion, council considered an ordinance that would repeal the restriction of open carry in town-owned and -run facilities altogether. That ordinance passed 4-3 on Jan. 28 on second reading.

Case against open carry

Almost as soon as the issue of possibly allowing the open carry of firearms in town facilities came up, some in Castle Rock began to speak out against it.

The repeal was set to go into effect Feb. 28, but a collection of 2,657 signatures on a referendum presented to town council Feb. 26 forced a delay.

As a result of the referendum, on April 14, the council voted to hold a special election on the issue. The town's estimated cost for the election, scheduled for Aug. 19, will be about $50,000.

Ballot Question A specifically asks whether the town manager's power to prohibit open carry on town property should be revoked.

In addition to the open-carry question, council voted to add a charter amendment question to the ballot that would potentially require a town vote to change gun laws in the future. A "yes" vote on Ballot Question B means "the voters must approve future action by the Town Council restricting the right to keep and bear firearms." A "no" vote means voter approval is not needed.

The complete ballot language can be found at

Castle Rock resident Ziggy Guentensberger and his neighbor Jacob Varnish were part of the group that started the referendum process aimed at allowing town residents to vote on the issue.

"We were getting phone calls and emails from people who wanted to help out and get signatures," Guentensberger said. "We realized this is something that the people want to make a decision on and want to be involved in. It quickly grew from there."

Some have asked why the vote on this issue couldn't have been held in November.

According to the town charter, the deadline for a special election is 120 days after the decision is made to hold the election. Possible dates considered were Aug. 12, 19 and 26.

Guentensberger said the tight deadline to decide the issue could have been avoided.

"(Council) could have rescinded (their decision) and tackled it this November," he said. "They could have tackled it next November. They could have tackled it in an April election."

Castle Rock Mayor Paul Donahue said that while council could have rescinded the ordinance changing the law, the volume of support for action shown during the referendum process convinced council that the best thing to do was allow the people of the town to vote.

"We could have done that, but we felt that it was important to follow through with the referendum and allow all of the people who signed the petition, along with the rest of Castle Rock, to decide," Donahue said.

Guentensberger said that for many, the opposition to the ordinance passed by council in January is not about the Second Amendment. The problem, in their view, was in the process.

"Some people feel that it's just not responsible to have guns," he said. "Some people feel that open carry is a little bit too extreme for our town. I think we all have a view that open carry in some areas is not a responsible action. But if you boil it down, I think the process is what got us all enraged and all involved."

Case for open carry

Many people who have spoken in favor of repealing the open-carry ban point to the need to protect the Second Amendment, and say that it is their constitutional right to openly carry a firearm.

Others say that, in reality, very few, if any, people actually do openly carry guns, and that if it were permitted, it would do little to affect the day-to-day lives of most people living in Castle Rock.

"Just because a citizen of Colorado does not exercise a constitutional right does not mean that politicians should have the ability to restrict that right," Donahue said.

Donahue said that while opponents want to frame the Aug.19 special election as simply being about the open carry of firearms, the election is actually about who the citizens of Castle Rock want to have the authority over their rights.

"This isn't about open carry. It's all about who do the people of Castle Rock want to have the power to grant or prohibit their constitutional rights," Donahue said.

Donahue points out that even if the town votes "no" on Ballot Measure A, the question about open carry, the issue is not settled, and the power to decide would simply fall back into the hands of the town manager, Mark Stevens.

"This is question about the future," Donahue said. "Mark Stevens, our longtime town manager, has said that he could retire next year. What happens when a new town manager or a new council come in down the road? Who do we want making these decisions, council or the people of the town?"

The mayor said that Ballot Measure B, which would require a town vote to change gun laws in the future, is an opportunity for the people of Castle Rock to ensure that their future is in their own hands.

"I say let's not put the power to make decisions about our constitutional rights on one individual or a small group of individuals. This is a chance to decide who has the power to make these decisions once and for all, and I think that it should be the people of the town," he said.


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Thank You Mike for this article.

What I find frustrating is the lengths that certain Town Council members and Mayor have gone to cloud the issue for us the voters. The Council and Mayor could have put in motion a straight up or down vote on open and carry firearms on municipal property in this November’s ballot rather than the convoluted mess of a ballot we have today. For the past year, the Council went out of its way to push for a repeal of an ordinance which has been in place for over 10 years. When they did not get their way due to the citizen petition, this group held emergency meetings and chose wording on a rushed ballot that is confusing at best. I find it ludicrous that they complain about the short timeline which they themselves imposed. They also added additional ballot measure that no other city/town in Colorado has in its municipal code and reduced our venerable US Constitution down to just to guns and ammo.

This “special” election is costing the town at least $50,000. A vote in November would have saved our town thousands of dollars. I would hope that those few gun owners eager to take their rifles to the rec center, town soccer field, or town hall could wait three months to see the results of a clear and concise vote on open and carry on town owned property. Nothing is stopping you from marching down Wilcox today. You could also join the Centennial Gun Club who’s managing partner is Mayor Donahue.

So the Town Council has given the voters of Castle Rock a confusing ballot which is a weak repeal of a repeal of a repeal instead of a clear vote. They have packaged their argument as if Castle Rock is unusual that it has an open and carry ban on town property. Most cities/towns on the Front Range have direct open and carry bans on town owned property written in to municipal code (see my earlier comment on the article which the Town council decided NOT to provide educational materials on the vote.)

I urge Castle Rock Voters to vote NO and send the Town Council a message that it needs to stop playing these games with our tax payer money.

Sunday, August 3, 2014

First, how about that Jen Green last night. First, she tries effectively accuses the Election Committee of holding a secret meeting because not enough notice was given and in the next breath says that the Election Committee should meet "tomorrow" to change the election procedures -- which would be completely against the meeting notice requirements. The Mayor had practically coach her through the meeting. The idea of someone who always so willing to throw out the rules when they favor her and accuses people of breaking the rules when something happens that she doesn't like being the next Mayor is scary. She just doesn't get it. The laws don't matter to her when she wants to do something.

It was also entertaining being in the room watching the Town Manager and the Town Clerk lose their poker faces. They both are very good at their jobs and it is pretty clear by observation that the Town Staff is frustrated with Green's lack of knowledge and Heath's clear disdain for Town staff. I hope Heath lives on a well paved road because I bet his road isn't going to end up on anyone's priority list.

I don't agree with the Mayor on many things. But he handled the election situation well. He acknowledges the flaws in the existing system but understands you have to live with it now. No matter what side of this issue you are on, he made the right call.

Wednesday, August 6, 2014

I hope that the Town Council gets what they deserve out of this election. They deserve lawsuits and chaos that is expensive and lasts years and hopefully leads to a resignation or two.

They could have chosen to repeal their own action and then added a ballot question in November which would have minimized costs and given them enough time to do public education right and get the voting laws fixed.

Then, proper public education could have been done. Notice how the deadlines for creating the public education materials were never discussed when the ballot questions were being crafted and then after they were approved, OH MY we don't have time to educate anybody. Guess what, that was knowable.

Then they discover that the election laws that THEY are responsible for are inadequate. Guess what, that was knowable.

I encourage everyone to vote in the way that will create the most confusion. Vote No on 1. and Yes on 2.

If the NO vote on 1 wins then the open carry on municipal property remains at the discretion of the Town Manager. And if 2 passes, any restrictions on guns have to go to the people.

Well, guess what. The Town Manager is retiring next year and the Mayor has strongly indicated in radio interviews that next Town Manager will reverse what the current Town Manager has done if question number 1 is voted down. By the way, someone's position on open carry is a stupid litmus test for a Town Manager.

But what if the impossible happens and the new Town Manager INCREASES open carry restrictions say in the new park. Then chaos ensues because the Town Manager is not Town Council so it doesn't have to go the people yet guns are further restricted.

Or, root for a close election so that whichever side loses sues and questions the election. I suspect there are enough shenanigans going on that they can get a court to throw out the results and the discovery process will shed a light on other things.

So, vote and root for chaos because that is what this Council deserves.

But, if you see the Town Clerk or the Town Manager, buy them a beer because they have to deal with these less than brilliant people every day.

Wednesday, August 6, 2014

I admire your passion on this subject. However, I do disagree with your suggestion that voters should approve the second ballot measure. Lawsuits will cost us and not the members of the Town Coulcil our taxpayer money. Anyone who has taken the time to laboriously watch or attend Town Council meetings… although the last one was a bit of a summer blockbuster,(pass the popcorn please!) knows that this council is sooo short sighted. After all it is actively trying to increase Castle Rock’s population to 100,000 without really thinking about the infrastructure needed to service double the population of a town with 50,000. (say good bye small town feel )

FYI Our Mayor who is arguing about the Town Manager having personal power of the rights of citizens should also explain how he became Mayor of Castle Rock and over 30,000 registered voters with only 4 votes (yes 4!)

Since we are unable to predict future gun laws much like our founding fathers were able to predict the AK-47, Ballot B could get rid of the flexibility we may need in our town to regulate lethal weapons. Plus ties our town to a politically contentious part of the US Constitution.

I would encourage a NO vote on both measures.

Thursday, August 7, 2014